Maravin Part 1

Weir wrote:Thank you for my own private quarters so that we have more safety in speaking.

I feel much safer now, so here is what House Saighan sent me when they invited me:

Greetings Weir, I am the Ambassador of House Saighan. I am here on behalf of the High Seat to offer you a place at our table. We are able to offer you protection at night in exchange for a portion of your daily stipend. In addition, you will be granted access to the House store where you will be able to hire a wide assortment of..ahem..goods. Some of which you will be unable to find elsewhere.

Please inform us of your decision with the utmost haste.

My reply was this:

Ambassador of House Saighan. After some deliberation, I have decided to take you up on your offer, if it is still open. I had to give it some thought, as I know some of my daily stipend will go to a House fund, and I really enjoy my gambling. My one condition is that though half of my stipend will go to the House fund, the other half is left open to me for my gambling purposes, for the most part. You see, I really like my gambling, and I'd rather not join a House if it means I can't continue gambling each night.

House_Maravin wrote:Excellent response.

You agreed and immediately changed the subject so as not to seem too interested. I knew you would be an excellent addition to house Maravin.

When you receive a response from them please let me know.

Also, I may be coming into some information concerning some of the other houses and their members. If you can think of a way to supply this information to house saighan without drawing too much attention to yourself we could try to make them do our dirty work.

Also, i am not sure if you have been made aware but, if a spy is able to become the "house leader" that house is brought down completely. So, try to find a way to be made the successor and then find out who the leader is. We can then hire an assasin to kill the leader and when you become leader the entire house falls.

You are doing great work. I have high hopes for you.

-House Maravin

Weir wrote:I'm in Saighan now, though I don't know a whole lot of anything yet. I know their store is the exact same as Maravin's, but other than that the High Seat is being a bit secretive there, too.

Do we have anyone else with us yet? I don't need names or anything, but I was just wondering what kind of numbers we have so far.

I'll keep you updated here as often as I can. Hopefully I will gain some good information from my Spy role during the Night phases.

House_Maravin wrote:We do have other members right now. You are currently the only spy tho.

Has house Saighan given you any instructions at all or are they just using you for the money right now?

Weir wrote:Nothing by way of instructions yet, but I just learned that it is only me and the High Seat so far, apparently.

House_Maravin wrote:That is actually great news for us.

Do what ever it is house Saighan asks. Also, please copy the messages you have from them here on this forum.

This way i can look at they way speak with you and try to find a match on the forums in other posts. If i can figure out who is the leader then we can get that person killed and you become the de facto leader of house saighan thus bringing down the entire house.

so far, it looks like people are just killing for money and personal reasons (racyn) so, until we tip our hand we should be ok.

Weir wrote:Who died during Night 2, btw? I missed the deadline to buy myself a paper

Weir wrote:I posted the stuff Saighan sent me, and I am trying to stall the High Seat there for now in regards to adding new people. That way provided the High Seat told me the truth that it is just them, we can try to find out who it is and kill them off while I am still the only member.

Weir wrote:This is where I will post what the High Seat of Saighan tells me. More posts to come, shortly.

Weir wrote:High Seat of Saighan

Thank you for joining House Saighan. You had luck at the tables so I hope you have some luck here. To discuss strategy, my idea was to have only a select few join our ranks and keep a low profile while the other houses destroy one another.

Any ideas or suggestions as I am open?

My Reply:

I'm not so sure about keeping the House to small numbers would work all that well, because the more people we have the more money we will get, and more money is going to be key to this game, I think.

Perhaps having a good number of people, but just keeping only a few really in-the-know or something would be a good idea. Don't really know. It has been a while since I played a Mafia game

Me:

Also, do we have anyone else yet, or is it just me and you so far?

My luck didn't hold through for cards the second night, either, as I missed the deadline to fold before the second round and lost an extra 15 gcs I didn't mean to

High Seat of Saighan

Noone else has joined as of yet. I am trying to figure out who I should trust and who not to so we do not get a spy or darkfriend if they are around. If we trust people let me know.

Me:

Maybe we should take it slow for now, just so we can be better sure of people before we try to invite them. We can watch how they post, who wins at gambling and might have money, etc., before getting more people.

The last part is me just trying to stall the High Seat so that we have time to figure out who it is and kill them.

House_Maravin wrote:Excellent. Good work so far.

Weir wrote:I have some good news, and some even better news, my Lord. Which would you prefer first?

House_Maravin wrote:I'll go with the good then better

Weir wrote:Good news: I believe my attempts to stall the High Seat of Saighan from recruiting worked. Fairly certain no invitation was sent, but not 100%.

Even Better News: The High Seat of Saighan has revealed herself to me The High Seat is Kaylie, and I think we should try to get rid of her as fast as possible.

House_Maravin wrote:Awesome, Great news on both accounts.

Is the reason you want to get rid of her because you don't want to risk her recruiting other ppl?

Excellent. I'm also concerned with Callisto. She seems to know more than she is letting on. I haven't decided what we should do about it but I will go ahead and setup the hit on kaylie.

Great Job Weir. If this all goes according to plan we will have narrowed the playing field down to only 3 houses.

Weir wrote:Yeah I don't trust that Kaylie will not recruit someone if we wait on taking her out, so if we can it would be better to take her out soon.

I definitely agree with you about Callisto.

What are the other Houses beyond Saighan and Maravin?

House_Maravin wrote:House Riatin and House Taborwin

Weir wrote:No dead Kaylie in the night according to the end of night post Did we not try to kill Kaylie? Or did we just fail?

House_Maravin wrote:Yeah, the attempt failed.

She apparently hired the (high chance) protection and the assassin wasn't able to get to her. *mutter*

I'm worried that she may have fed you this information to hire a thier taker track who put the hit out on her. So, if this is the case then she knows you are a spy and knows that I personally put a hit out on her.

I'll need to think about what we should do next. If i can get 1 or 2 more people, we could probably lynch her. If we vote for the lynchings right at the end of the day, we might be able to get her before people put in their "no lynch"

Try to see if you can get any clues from kaylie about what happened in the night. We might need to buy protection tomorrow night, we'll see.

Weir wrote:My night action failed too I didn't have a lot of gold since I lose half of it and I have been getting crappy rolls, so I splurged on a tracking hound for 35 gc and tried tracking Callisto. It failed.

Weir wrote:And I'll see if I can find out anything from Kaylie. I know I won't be able to afford protection by myself, though, as I got another crappy roll and lost half of what I did have again.

House_Maravin wrote:I think i may have a way of keeping kaylie from putting a hit on us but it would also make it so that I cannot put a hit on her.

It's a trade off we might consider since we already know she is the leader of the house we can focus on callisto tonight since she it not aware of our attention on her.

The question is, should we just put a hit on her? or should i hire a tracker to get information? Or, should we just try to lynch her today.

I think we could get away with the lynching since there is quite a bit of outrage that she lynched gem.

Also, I have another member of house maravin and I think that i trust the both of you enough now to the point we can all know who eachother is . let me know what you think. I don't want to do this if you do not what the other member to know who you are.

-House Maravin

Weir wrote:1) Callisto - I think we would probably be the best off trying to swing a lynch vote on Callisto. People were rather upset about her lynching Gem, and I think we could probably get enough people, or find ways to convince enough people, that she needs to be lynched. I think it would be a waste to try to kill her off during the night unless we are unable to lynch her.

2) Kaylie - If we can lynch Callisto, then we can spend money on trying to kill Kaylie or protect ourselves from Kaylie rather than spending it on Callisto. If lynching Callisto fails, then we may want to put off killing Kaylie for later. I just really don't trust Callisto. The problem with that would be Kaylie is almost certain to do some recruiting at some point, if she didn't force a recruit last night, and the longer we go the more likely she will know I am a spy if she doesn't already.

3) I definitely trust you and I think we are working well together so far, but how well do you trust this other person? Seeing as I haven't had any interaction with them yet, I guess I am a little leery of them. If you think they are trustable, then yes I am okay with it by all means.

4) We also need to keep in mind the other two Houses, Riatin and Taborwin. Do we have ANY information about them yet?

Weir wrote:I sent a mail to Kaylie earlier asking her if she found out anything useful during the night, and she responded but all she said was that someone tried to kill her and that it was exciting.

That would be me. Just to let you know someone failed to kill me....kind of exciting.

I sent back this:

Someone tried to kill you? Did you have protection then is why it failed? Were there any clues as to who tried?

Her response:

If you are a member of a house you have a good chance to be protected. A guard ran him off and there were no clues.

What killer did we try to hire? A low chance one? If it was, I think we should have gone with a better one

I sent back this:

Ohhh, nice, so you didn't even need to buy protection and you just got lucky?

Now I need to try to persuade her to not buy protection tonight if we are going to try to kill her again. I say if we need to kill someone again like this, we need to strike as hard as possible and kill them off immediately, or run the risk of this happening again.

House_Maravin wrote:Well, the problem is there is 3 types of assassin's you can hire

low, medium, and high.

Low and Medium have a set price but "high" is an acution that goes to the highest bidder. For fear i did not have enuff money i went with medium. But, it sounds like she doesn't really know who attacked her so, i will setup another medium attack again. (I got my money back from the failed attempt last night)

Also, I wanted to make sure you put in your lynch for callisto today. she attacked jessea in an attempt to take attention off herself. Now is the time to get rid of calliso.

Weir wrote:Will do with the Callisto lynch. What is the war room thingy that I can see now? New forum you had made?

Weir wrote:If you haven't seen Callisto's most recent game thread post, you might want to take a look. Can we afford at this point to throw our weight behind lynching Callisto? Maybe we should hold off while she is winning and then if it looks like the vote might swing to a "No Lynch" we can toss in our cards.

House_Maravin wrote:I was thinking the same thing. Once I looked and saw that she is clearly going to be lynched as it stands. Keep an eye out and look right before the end of the phase to see if someone does try to sneak in a vote to save her.

The war room is a thread that you and all my house members have access to. Except me. Jez forgot to give me access to it. Once i do the 3 of us will be able to discuss strategy.

I also have some information about House Saighan. Apparently she has tried to recruit someone else today. I'm fairly certian you can only recruit 1 person a day and then "force recruit" 1 person a night. I have a way of making it so she will not be able to have a night action tonight but, that will also "protect" her from being attacked.

I have advised the person that she tried to recruit to stall her by asking needless questions to tie up her recruiting possibilities.

Weir wrote:She hasn't said anything to me about recruiting at all today, other than asking if I had any thoughts

So you can roleblock Kaylie, but it protects her somehow? Will this still stop her from using a forced recruitment if she wants to, since that is separate from her personal actions, isn't it?

And oops on Jezebel forgetting to give you access, lol.

House_Maravin wrote:It's not a roleblock per se.

It's only for one night. She will be a guest in someones home. Because she is a guest she "busy" she cannot perform a night action and because she is a guest at someone house with other ppl around she will be well protected. (safe from assissination)

So, that takes care of her tonight. She waited her day recruitment on someone i know will not join her so, hopefully you are still her only house member.

Have you broached the subject of becoming her succesor? Ask her if it would be wise for her to name a successor so that if she dies the house will still live on and not fall etc, etc.

Weir wrote:I think I might have said something about it in a mail to her at one point (she can't look at these forums from work), but I don't remember for certain, and she hasn't brought it up.

Weir wrote:Nothing new on the Saighan front at all, by the way.

House_Maravin wrote:nod, thx for the update.